Biomes for 1.7

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Biomes for 1.7

Post by Kinniken » Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:32 pm

Hi guys,

There had been discussions earlier on what biomes to use for what villages in MC 1.7. I haven't had much time to think about it. Any volunteer to draw up a list and update the village and lone building files accordingly?

Thanks

K.

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Re: Biomes for 1.7

Post by felinoel » Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:50 am

I can draw up the list that I drew up before:
felinoel wrote:
  • Snowy
  • Frozen River
  • Ice Plains
  • Ice Plains Hills
  • Ice Plains Spikes/*]
  • Cold Beach
  • Cold Taiga
  • Cold Taiga M)
  • Cold
  • Extreme Hills
  • Extreme Hills M
  • Ice Plains Spikes
  • Taiga
  • Taiga Hills
  • Taiga M
  • Mega Taiga
  • Mega Spruce Taiga
  • Extreme Hills+
  • Extreme Hills+ M
  • Stone Beach
  • Medium/Lush
  • Plains
  • Sunflower Plains
  • Forest
  • Forest Hills
  • Flower Forest
  • Swampland
  • Swampland M
  • River
  • Muchroom Island
  • Mushroom Island Shore
  • Beach
  • Jungle
  • Jungle Hills
  • Jungle M
  • Jungle Edge
  • Jungle Edge M
  • Birch Forest
  • Birch Forest M
  • Birch Forest Hills
  • Birch Forest Hills M
  • Roofed Forest
  • Roofed Forest M
  • Warm/Dry
  • Desert
  • Desert Hills
  • Desert M
  • Savanna
  • Savanna M
  • Mesa
  • Mesa (Bryce)
  • Plateau
  • Plateau M

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Re: Biomes for 1.7

Post by Kinniken » Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:42 pm

What culture do you put in what biome?

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Re: Biomes for 1.7

Post by felinoel » Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:58 am

Kinniken wrote:What culture do you put in what biome?
Well one would have to note the temperature and general climate of each culture first.

Norman: France - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France#Climate
Hindi: India - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India#Geography
Mayan: Mexico - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Mexico#Climate
Japanese: Japan - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Japan#Climate
Byzantine: Italy - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Italy



When I am done finalizing my Inuits I will return for more.

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Re: Biomes for 1.7

Post by 123guy » Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:02 am

When you ask for somebody to update the files, is that just simply adding biome:plains etc?

EDIT: The Byzantines lived in modern-day Greece and Turkey, not Italy.

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Re: Biomes for 1.7

Post by Ticlon » Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:25 pm

I care about this bit.

For the villages:
- Normans generate in Extreme Hill+ biomes (because of Mountains in France) and Plains with their variants.
- Byzantines generate in Savanna and Plains biomes (to represent Mediterranean areas) with their variants.
- Hindi generate in Mesa (Canyon) and Desert biomes with their variants, also at jungle edges. Maybe savanna also..?
- Japanese generate in Extreme Hill biomes and Snowless Taiga. Maybe birch forest also..?
- Maya generate at Jungle Edges, Jungle and Swampland with their variants.

For the lone buildings:
- Tend to generate in the villages biomes (temperature zones), but are more free
- Tower-like buildings (Military) generate in Hills, Plateaus and Mountains only.
- Bandit buildings are hidden in the forest. Includes the Felon Castle as well.
- Civilian buildings generate in valleys rather than in mountains.
- Farms/mills/quarries tend to generate in 'lush' biomes, their abandoned versions in 'dull' biome variants.

Normans and Byzantines are done, if you have anything to add/change, tell me please. :D

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Re: Biomes for 1.7

Post by felinoel » Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:38 am

123guy wrote:When you ask for somebody to update the files, is that just simply adding biome:plains etc?
Yes.
EDIT: The Byzantines lived in modern-day Greece and Turkey, not Italy.
My mistake.

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Re: Biomes for 1.7

Post by Gavinator25 » Wed Apr 09, 2014 3:32 pm

I have always liked the idea of my Turks in the Mesa biome, and still share the Desert biome with the Hindi! If I can ever get back to finishing it all up at least.
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Re: Biomes for 1.7

Post by Ticlon » Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:56 pm

An interesting effect of the new placement is that you come across lone buildings with inhabitants more often because the lush variants are more often than the mountainous/rocky terrain.

Also, I would tweak the weight of Gros Bourg and Mahal Villages, having all in all should be a rare find. But did not do it though.

And for those seeking for bandits: Some tell stories about finding them in thick, dark, mushroomy forests. :lol:

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Re: Biomes for 1.7

Post by felinoel » Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:57 pm

Gavinator25 wrote:I have always liked the idea of my Turks in the Mesa biome, and still share the Desert biome with the Hindi! If I can ever get back to finishing it all up at least.
My Inuits are going in all of the snowy and cold biomes, except for the hills and the beaches that are cold.

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Re: Biomes for 1.7

Post by Ticlon » Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:09 pm

Yes fel, in my biome placement I kinda preserved the snowy biomes for the Inuit ;)

BUG FOUND: lone buildings don't spawn in the biomes they are coded to. This is kind of random...


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/377 ... ltures.zip

birch forests and snowy biomes might feel a little dull, but the rest should be pretty well covered.

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Re: Biomes for 1.7

Post by felinoel » Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:29 am

Ticlon wrote:Yes fel, in my biome placement I kinda preserved the snowy biomes for the Inuit ;)
Just was stating the biomes for Inuits?

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Re: Biomes for 1.7

Post by Kinniken » Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:43 pm

Thanks Ticlon, will check it out and probably include it in the next beta.

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Re: Biomes for 1.7

Post by StalkerExecutor » Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:26 am

ALL cultures should spawn in Plains (sunflower plains, etc.)

Normans should be able to spawn in most of the new forests (birch, dark oak, etc.)

Hindi should be able to spawn in Savannah, Plateaus, Mesas, any of the warm/dry biomes. Swampland should also be added to the list of biomes that the Hindi can spawn in (Bangladesh is very swampy).

Mayans should spawn in mountainous terrain (Mexico is very mountainous). They may or may not be able to spawn in plains, depending if I studied the Mexican climate enough.

Japanese should be able to spawn in ALL taigas, extreme hills, ice plains, and perhaps some of the more temperate forests. You are also free to make them spawn on beaches, as they are a seafaring nation (though it may be tedious).

Byzantines should be able to spawn in warm taiga, most of the warm forests (maybe the exception of Dark oak forest?), Savannah, ALL kinds of plains, and perhaps plateau and mesa (Anatolia has many plateaus). If you believe that they were still built for the Egyptian climate, even in the 11th century, then count swampland in too.

And, of course, every culture should be able to spawn near rivers. I did not add any of the old biomes, as I thought it would be unnecessary.

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Re: Biomes for 1.7

Post by Ticlon » Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:45 am

Why I chose to Not do it this way is that Most of the people I know want to help a special culture. This way, they dont have to cheat a wand and Gold block but instead are able to look for the Type of village they want.
But I agree to your placement as well, because of more diversity in biomes.

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Re: Biomes for 1.7

Post by PsiGuy60 » Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:58 pm

This is the way I personally see things.

Norman: Plains, forest variants, Extreme Hills (rarely), swampland
Indian: Jungle variants, dense forest, savanna, desert (rarely)
Japanese: Extreme hills, taiga variants.
Byzantine: Same as Norman
Mayan: Mesa, jungle variants, savanna, desert
Inuit: Ice plains variants, cold taiga.

However, I do think any culture should have a chance to spawn in any biome - after all, they were transported to the Minecraft world by a mysterious force that probably doesn't care much for their preferences.

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Re: Biomes for 1.7

Post by felinoel » Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:35 am

PsiGuy60 wrote:However, I do think any culture should have a chance to spawn in any biome - after all, they were transported to the Minecraft world by a mysterious force that probably doesn't care much for their preferences.
Not all villages spawn transported directly from Earth, that is why villages start with the bare minimum.

From how I can understand it, people are transported to Minecraft and then they settle in a land familiar to them.

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Re: Biomes for 1.7

Post by The123king » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:10 pm

Here's how i see it...

Hindi:
Savannah
Savannah Plateau
Desert

Byzantines
Mesa
Mesa (Bryce)
Mesa Plateau
Birch forest
Desert

Japanese:
Extreme hills
Taiga
Mega Taiga
Mega Spruce Taiga
Roofed Forest(?)

Mayans:
Jungle
Jungle edge
Swampland
Sunflower plains

Normans:
Plains
Birch forest
Forest
Flower forest

There's probably more that i've missed, but I think these biomes suit the cultures best. IMHO it's probably best not to allow villages to spawn in any mountainous variations, as the land around the villages for building is usually small due to large variations in height.

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